Even for those who didn't live through the Madchester excitement of
the early '90s, it's not hard to appreciate just how consistent The
Charlatans have been over the past 16 years.
As they unleash their ninth opus, Simpatico, and prepare for another round of touring and summer festivals, we caught up with founder member Martin Blunt (no relation to James Hillier-Blount, we hasten to add) to discover the secrets of longevity...
"We were like
a band of brothers when we started out - there was a really special
connection with the five of us," says bass player Martin Blunt, the man who founded The Charlatans. "But there was never a plan
to have this career in music, you know; just to get there, get the
music special, make a connection and move on, and fortunately, we've
just moved on to our ninth album."
But it's not been as easy as that; loyal followers of the band will
know of the past - the armed robbery conviction, the tragic accident
that killed keyboard player Rob Collins, not to mention the recent
relocation of Tim Burgess to LA. It's nothing short of a miracle that
they've managed to weather the storms and stand the test of time in the
way that they have.
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I ask whether they've thought about writing their
autobiography. Martin isn't averse to the idea. "We've had a couple of
books written about us and one was authorised," he says. "But maybe we
should sit down some time and do a warts and all - the real story!"
When it does get written, it'll be some story. But there's still
some mileage left in the Charlatans saga. Reviews of Simpatico have, surprisingly, commented on its dark content. "I think the
lyrics are very dark," Blunt concedes. "The music is mellow but when
you put the two together it catches you off guard, which I really
like."
"I really like his lyrics,
it's like Alan Bennett with music." - Martin Blunt on Dirty Pretty Things' Carl Barat
But it's not just the lyrics which have raised eyebrows - there's
also a noticeable Clash influence evident on the album. "I think
that was more from Tim, he's always been a really big fan of The Clash,
and I think he's heard albums like Sandanista and London Calling."
Blunt explains. "I never really get Sandanista myself because I think
there are too many tracks on it! I think some of them are stuck on.
It's like when CD's first came out when you could get 74 minutes of
music on a CD. A lot of bands fill that up but you don't need to do
that. But I think London Calling and Combat Rock are pretty outstanding
albums."
Perhaps in keeping with the Clash influence, there's also some
experimentation with reggae on the album. "There is a twist on there.
The other band which we all agreed was fantastic was the LCD
Soundsystem. One of the first tracks we did was City of the Desert
- that's got a reggae tip on it. But it's not like, oh, this month
we've been mostly listening to... There's a twist on there because
it works well."
Fans of the band should rest assured however, that The Charlatans
have not abandoned the sound which has characterised their music over
the past 16 years. New single Blackened Blue Eyes is classic
Charlatans. With a track written by Blunt and keyboardist Tony Rogers,
it was sent over to Tim who apparently "straight away got the lyrics on
there". In fact, it sounds so much like the Charlatans that apparently
a friend of Blunt's, on hearing it on the radio, thought it was someone
else ripping off The Charlatans. "I didn't know how to take that,"
Blunt puzzles. "Is it a compliment?"
"The trademark Charlatans sound is more from the boys at the
back." - Martin Blunt on his band
Of course it is. But it does probably explain Tim Burgess's need to
strike out on his own a couple of years ago with solo album I Believe,
which sounds surprisingly un-Charlatanesque. "That was why it was a
solo album, because it really wasn't anything that was going to be
suitable for the band," Blunt says. "I think the songs were very
personal." Did you like it? I ask him. There is a slight pause. "It had
its moments. He needed to do it."
So if not Tim Burgess, who does brings the Charlatans sound to the
band, in Blunt's opinion? "Tim brings the twists on moving forward," he
replies. "But I think the trademark sound is more from the boys at the
back. We were also really fortunate to find as likeminded a person to
Rob Collins as Tony Rogers [Rob's replacement on keyboards]. That I
think dealt us a good hand so that we could carry on at that
point."
Speaking of influences, I ask how bands like Arctic Monkeys
and Franz Ferdinand affect The Charlatans' music, if at all. "I
take an interest - I'm still a music fan," Blunt affirms. "I wouldn't
say I was affected by them, but I can see how good they are,
particularly the two bands you've mentioned." So you like them then? "Oh
yes. I actually saw the Arctic Monkeys at SXSW with Carl
[Barat] from the Dirty Pretty Things. I really like his lyrics,
it's like Alan Bennett with music. The same with Franz Ferdinand -
they're good." But it's not just the British bands which are tickling
his fancy. "The last good album I heard was a band from Canada called
Black Mountain. I really enjoyed it."
"I enjoy
live more than anything. It's the best thing in the world that people
have actually gone and got tickets to come and see you." - Martin Blunt thanks The Charlatans' fans
With a tour booked and ready to go, The Charlatans are about to go
into rehearsals. I ask how easy it is to start playing together again.
Apparently not that easy. "Nothing is taken for granted," he says.
"It's not about being slick, but to realise where you are so you
haven't got to think about it. I always like it when it's a solid set
which works really well." And fans who have already bought tickets on
the tour might also like to know the following: "We rehearsed a track
off the new album, Muddy Ground, and went straight into You're So
Pretty afterwards and they run really well together."
Blunt obviously enjoys the playing live side of his work. When asked
how long he could go on tour for, he's enthusiastic. "Forever! I enjoy
live more than anything. It's the best thing in the world that people
have actually gone and got tickets to come and see you. With us I do
think even now, there's something a bit more dynamic live."
To witness some of that dynamism, see the band on tour in the UK
throughout April and May or catch them at the T In the Park and V Festivals
in July and August.